Pat Mair works with survivors of abuse, including with victims of Celtic Boys Club. Through her charity, Talk Now, she's counselled many victims of the club, and also survivors of abuse in other settings.

We sat down with Pat to talk about the work she does and what she makes of the case against Celtic Boys Club.

In this episode you'll hear:

• How Pat thinks the inaction of Celtic FC is traumatising the survivors, almost like they're being abused again
• How she views the scale of the abuse at Celtic Boys Club compared to other settings she's worked in
• The impact of a abuse on the children and their families
• What that means long term for the survivors as they grow up
• And the particularly cruel aspects of this kind of abuse in a football setting

You can find out more about the work which Pat does by visiting the Talk Now website: https://talknow.org.uk/

Again, thank you to all the brave individuals who have come forward to share their story.

This podcast is free, but you can become a Patreon to help support the small team who work hard to tell this story. You can sign up here: https://patreon.com/TheCaseAgainstCelticBoysClub

Warning: the episode discusses issues which some people may find distressing.

If you or a member of your family has been affected by the issues in this podcast, you can find help and support here: https://www.mygov.scot/childhood-abuse

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Host: Peter Henderson

I am Peter Henderson, a former producer at the BBC and a press and media communications consultant. This podcast is the product of my personal research and is not attributable to any organisation I have or continue to work with with in my capacity as a communications consultant.

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