In this episode of The Real State, Alex and Jamie explore the real state of inclusion with special guest and co-author Garrett Mayersohn to celebrate the launch of Boundless: Real Stories and Practical Strategies for Inclusive Living. Together, they dive into the stories and strategies behind designing spaces that remove barriers for people of all abilities.

From Alex’s personal caregiving journey to Garrett’s lived experience navigating the world with cerebral palsy, this conversation blends humor, insight, and real talk about the importance, and impact, of Universal Design. They unpack what most people misunderstand about accessibility, why ADA compliance isn’t enough, and how better design benefits everyone.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Intro: What Boundless is all about

• 04:15 – Garrett’s journey and what cerebral palsy has taught him about design

• 08:32 – The real audience for this book—and why it’s more than just professionals

• 15:10 – What is Universal Design, really?

• 21:40 – Real-life design fails and what they teach us

• 26:00 – The economics of inclusion: cost, risk, and return

• 35:00 – The movement ahead: What Boundless aims to change

• 📘 Get the book: Boundless on Amazon

• 🌐 More on inclusive design: Access Built

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