This is the second of two discussions of Martin Heideger’s essay “The Thing.” Please see episode #100 for the first installment, which set the table (jug joke) for this discussion. In this episode Barry and Mike focus on Heidegger’s notion of “nearness” and the “thingliness” of the jug/thing.

In this episode Barry and Mike begin their two-part discussion of Martin Heidegger’s 1949 lecture, “The Thing.” They focus on his concept of distancenessless as a unique problem of modernity and discuss how what he calls nearness might serve as an antidote.

In this episode Barry and Mike discuss the idea of “frictionless” relationships in the age of artificial intimacy.

ErikaHayasaki – “What Would a Real Friendship With A.I. Look Like? Maybe Like Hers?

The New York Times Magazine

7/20/2025

TED Radio Hour -- How our relationships are changing in the age of “artificial intimacy"

Friday, August

2, 2024

In this episode Barry and Mike discuss Karl Ove Knausgaard’s article, “The Reenchanted World: On Finding Mystery in the Digital Age.” They examine Knausgaard’s proposed solution to the problem of the separation of knowledge from experience in an increasingly technological world.

In this episode Barry and Mike continue their discussion of the place of AI in art. They experiment with Suno and discuss the results. You can listen to those results at the links below.

Barry's Tomatoes

Barry's Tomatoes as Rock and Roll

In this episode Barry and Mike discuss Rob Horning’s Substack essay, “No One’s Version” and whether the world needs an AI generated song about Barry growing tomatoes in the style of “Sympathy for the Devil” with the horns from Johnny Cash’s “Ring of Fire” and a guitar line to be determined (we think it does).

In this episode Barry and Mike continue their discussion of Jenny Odell’s book, “How To Do Nothing,” focusing on the importance of attention in producing critical thought. They then connect these ideas to previous discussions on the Taste Economy.

This is the first of two episodes on Jenny Odell’s book (and talk) “How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy.” Barry and Mike discuss the broad outlines of Odell’s project and attempt to connect it to Daisy Alioto’s understanding of the Taste Economy.

In/Visible Talks 2018: Jenny Odell - How To Do Nothing