"If I’m having turnover again and again, there’s something wrong. My job as the leader is to figure it out.”

Notable Moments

[04:29] A landscaping business owner shares struggles with turnover and labor shortages.

[06:18] The importance of psychological safety in reducing turnover.

[08:03] Why people don’t trust their organizations anymore.

[10:21] Example of a company creating loyalty by treating employees well.

[12:01] How simple conversations with employees can prevent turnover.

[14:54] Lee’s reflection on personal responsibility for problems and habits.

What drives employee turnover? Lee Cockerell shares stories and lessons that point to a clear truth: turnover is less about the job market and more about the environment leaders create. From psychological safety to personal accountability, this episode explores how leaders can stop blaming external factors and start building workplaces people never want to leave.

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Resources

Creating Magic Mastermind October 2025

CockerellStore.com

The Cockerell Academy

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