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Alessandro Colla - Partner & Head of Development at Evoluzione & Co-Author of "Domain-Driven Refactoring"
Alberto Acerbis - Software Architect at Intré & Co-Author of "Domain-Driven Refactoring"
Xin Yao - Independent Consultant Contextualizing DDD & Sociotechnical Architecture

RESOURCES
Alessandro
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandrocolla
https://www.alessandrocolla.com

Alberto
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aacerbis
https://albertoacerbis.com

Xin
https://bsky.app/profile/settling-mud.bsky.social
https://www.linkedin.com/in/xinxin

Links
https://github.com/PacktPublishing/Domain-driven-Refactoring
https://github.com/BrewUp

DESCRIPTION
Legacy code isn't just old - it's a treasure chest of lost business knowledge waiting to be rediscovered. Alessandro Colla and Alberto Acerbis share their battle-tested approach to domain-driven refactoring, explaining why you should start with understanding the business problem before touching a single line of code. Like Michelangelo seeing the statue of David hidden in marble, they show how the right solution already exists within your legacy codebase—you just need the right tools and techniques to set it free.

From event storming workshops over beer to modular monoliths as stepping stones, these "double-A battery" developers prove that thoughtful, incremental refactoring beats flashy microservices migrations every time.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Colla & Acerbis • Domain-Driven Refactoring • https://amzn.to/3I3I7zf
Evans • Domain-Driven Design • https://amzn.to/3tnGhwm
Vernon • Implementing Domain-Driven Design • https://amzn.to/44r39PB
Nilsson • Applying Domain-Driven Design and Patterns • https://amzn.to/3GoxYw

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Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
Kevlin Henney - Consultant, Programmer, Keynote Speaker, Technologist, Trainer & Writer

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Daniel
https://bsky.app/profile/tastapod.com
https://twitter.com/tastapod
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http://dannorth.net/blog

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https://about.me/kevlin
https://twitter.com/KevlinHenney
https://linkedin.com/in/kevlin
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https://kevlinhenney.medium.com

Links
https://jaoo.dk/jaoo2004/index2.jsp
https://jaoo.dk/archives

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Jez Humble & David Farley • Continuous Delivery • https://amzn.to/452ZRky
Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate • https://amzn.to/442Rep0
Kevlin Henney & Trisha Gee • 97 Things Every Java Programmer Should Know • https://amzn.to/3kiTwJJ
Kevlin Henney • 97 Things Every Programmer Should Know • https://amzn.to/2Yahf9U
Henney & Monson-Haefel • 97 Things Every Software Architect Should Know • https://amzn.to/3pZuHsQ
Gojko Adzic • Specification by Example • https://amzn.to/44uqT6z

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Flavia Circiumaru - Software Engineer at FundApps
Hannes Lowette - Principal Consultant at Axxes, Monolith Advocate, Speaker & Whiskey Lover

RESOURCES
Flavia
https://x.com/FlavsFA
https://github.com/flaviacirciumaru
https://www.linkedin.com/in/flavia-circiumaru

Hannes
https://bsky.app/profile/hanneslowette.net
https://twitter.com/hannes_lowette
https://github.com/Belenar
https://linkedin.com/in/hanneslowette

DESCRIPTION
When FundApps exploded from 20 to 50+ engineers in just one year, their old "everyone does support" model crumbled spectacularly. Software engineer Flavia Circiumaru and host Hannes Lowette dive deep into how this London-based regulatory compliance company transformed from a support-free-for-all to a streamlined powerhouse.

Flavia Circiumaru reveals the behind-the-scenes story of building a three-desk support system that turned their support team into the ultimate connector, bridging customers, developers, and business teams like never before. From battling context-switching nightmares to creating communication magic, Flavia and Hannes explore actionable insights on scaling support without losing your sanity.

The twist? Their ultimate goal is to make support so seamless that dedicated teams won't even be needed. Talk about engineering your way out of a job!

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Jacqui Read • Communication Patterns • https://amzn.to/3E37lvv
Saleem Siddiqui • Learning Test-Driven Development • https://amzn.to/35OMb3n
Ben Goldacre • Bad Science • https://amzn.to/4lqNLKN
Ben Goldacre • Bad Pharma • https://amzn.to/3G15Mz7
Jeet Pattanaik • Ethics in AI • https://amzn.to/4jXyQXw

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Evan Czaplicki - Creator and developer of Elm
Kris Jenkins - Developer Advocate, Software Developer, Podcast Host, Conference Speaker & Geek

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Evan
https://twitter.com/evancz
https://github.com/evancz

Kris
https://twitter.com/krisajenkins
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins
https://github.com/krisajenkins
http://blog.jenkster.com

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RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Richard Feldman • Elm in Action • https://amzn.to/387kujI
Jeremy Fairbank • Programming Elm • https://amzn.to/2WhZCE8
Wolfgang Loder • Web Applications with Elm • https://amzn.to/3jblQ3q
Cristian Salcescu • Functional Programming in JavaScript • https://amzn.to/3y75jBS

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Liz Fong-Jones - Field CTO at Honeycomb.io
Lesley Cordero - Staff Software Engineer, Tech Lead at The New York Times

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Liz
https://bsky.app/profile/lizthegrey.com
https://github.com/lizthegrey
https://linkedin.com/in/efong
https://www.lizthegrey.com

Lesley
https://www.lesleycordero.com
https://twitter.com/clesleycode
https://github.com/clesleycode
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesleycordero

Videos
https://www.alex-hidalgo.com
https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/most-important-developer-productivity-metric-build-times

DESCRIPTION
Liz and Lesley explore the evolution of platform engineering from its DevOps and SRE roots. They discuss the challenges of building effective developer platforms, the importance of psychological safety and evidence-based prioritization, the complexities of open source sustainability, and the delicate balance between centralized platform teams and developer autonomy.

The conversation covers practical insights on documentation automation, onboarding strategies, the manager-engineer career pendulum, and why treating platform work as a service rather than a mandate is crucial for organizational success.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Adkins, Beyer, Blankinship, Lewandowski, Oprea & Stubblefield • Building Secure and Reliable Systems • https://amzn.to/4n0bjae
Charity Majors, Liz Fong-Jones & George Miranda • Observability Engineering • https://amzn.to/38scbma
Beyer, Murphy, Rensin, Kawahara & Thorne • The Site Reliability Workbook • https://amzn.to/3IwsiOl
Kelly Shortridge & Aaron Rinehart • Security Chaos Engineering • https://www.verica.io/sce-book
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Kief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished Engineer at Thoughtworks
Abby Bangser - Principal Engineer at Syntasso & Team Topologies Advocate

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Kief
https://bsky.app/profile/kief.com
https://twitter.com/kief
https://github.com/kief
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiefmorris
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Abby
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https://twitter.com/a_bangser
https://github.com/abangser
https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbybangser
https://www.syntasso.io/members-area/abby/profile

Links
https://infrastructure-as-code.com

DESCRIPTION
Abby Bangser (Principal Engineer at Syntasso) speaks with Kief Morris (Distinguished Engineer at Thoughtworks consultant and Author of "Infrastructure as Code") about the evolution of infrastructure as code over the past decade. They discuss how the field has grown from simple server configuration management to complex cloud architectures, the challenges of current tooling, and emerging solutions like System Initiative.

The conversation explores the importance of abstraction layers, the application of software development principles to infrastructure, and how AI might transform the field. They emphasize that infrastructure decisions must align with business needs rather than being treated as generic plumbing, highlighting the ongoing need for platform engineering and developer experience considerations.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Kief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQc
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ
Dave Thomas • simplicity • https://amzn.to/43FghBJ
Dave Thomas & Andy

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Alice Bartlett - Tech Director for Customer Products at Financial Times
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

RESOURCES
Alice
https://x.com/alicebartlett
https://github.com/alicebartlett
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicebartlett
https://medium.com/@alice.bartlett
https://alicebartlett.co.uk

Charles
https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social
https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble
https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble
https://conissaunce.com

Links
https://blog.container-solutions.com/wtf-happens-to-psychological-safety

DESCRIPTION
Alice Bartlett, Tech Director at the Financial Times, discusses her journey from principal engineer to leading a 70-person team responsible for https://www.ft.com and mobile apps. She shares insights on managing editorial stakeholders, balancing technical debt with business priorities, leading difficult conversations, and navigating the challenges of AI in software development.

The conversation with Charles Humble covers her approach to architectural challenges, communication strategies, and the evolving role of technology leadership in modern media organizations.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps • https://amzn.to/45U8Upr
Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge • https://amzn.to/3XQEeDu
Sun Tzu • The Art of War • https://amzn.to/2BqDeha
Mark Craddock • Wardley Mapping Doctrine • https://amzn.to/4b3jRYb
Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc
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Pragmatic Dave Thomas - Pragmatic Programmer Turned Publisher
Sarah Taraporewalla - CTO APAC at Thoughtworks

RESOURCES
Dave
https://pragdave.me
https://twitter.com/pragdave
https://github.com/pragdave
https://linkedin.com/in/dave-thomas-53aa1057

Sarah
https://sarahtaraporewalla.com
https://twitter.com/sarahtarap
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahtaraporewalla
https://github.com/staraporf

Links
https://pragprog.com
https://agilemanifesto.org

DESCRIPTION
Sarah Taraporewalla (CTO APAC at Thoughtworks) sits down with programming legend Dave Thomas—co-founder of The Pragmatic Programmer and co-creator of principles like DRY (Don't Repeat Yourself)—to discuss his latest book "Simplicity."

Dave reveals why he believes "Agile is Dead" and shares his disillusionment with how agile practices have become rigid, corporate processes rather than the flexible, value-driven approach originally envisioned in the Agile Manifesto he helped create. The conversation centers around his new Orient-Step-Learn framework, designed to help individual developers master true simplicity through deliberate practice and feedback loops, emphasizing that real simplicity requires mastery and cannot be achieved overnight.

Dave advocates for developers to take personal agency, reduce unnecessary dependencies, and focus on what they can control rather than waiting for organizational change, arguing that simplicity is ultimately about cutting away complexity to reveal elegant, minimal solutions.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Dave Thomas • simplicity • https://amzn.to/43FghBJ
Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt • The Pragmatic Programmer • https://amzn.to/43QuMBj
Dave Snowden & Friends • Cynefin • https://amzn.to/3FSnF3

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