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Hannah Foxwell - Independent Consultant & Founder of "AI for the rest of us"
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

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Links
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https://www.aifortherestofus.co/newsletter
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ynenr1eno

DESCRIPTION
Hannah Foxwell sits down with Charles Humble - speaker, advisor, podcast host, and author - to explore his e-book "Kubernetes at the Edge". They cover what "edge computing" actually means, why it matters across industries from precision agriculture to healthcare and retail, how to approach vendor selection and day-two operations, and why sustainability must be central to how we build and deploy technology. The conversation closes with a frank and thoughtful discussion about the responsibilities of the tech industry in the age of generative AI.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Charles Humble • Kubernetes at the Edge • https://www.conissaunce.com/kubernetes-edge-ebook
Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcut
Charles Humble • The Developer's Guide to Cloud Infrastructure, Efficiency & Sustainability • https://conissaunce.com/sustainability-ebook

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Rebecca Parsons - CTO Emerita at Thoughtworks
Gregor Hohpe - Author of "Platform Strategy", "The Software Architect Elevator", et al.
Barry O'Reilly - Founder at Black Tulip Tech and Author of "Residues" & "The Architect's Paradox"
Andrew Harmel-Law - Technical Principal at Thoughtworks & Author of "Facilitating Software Architecture"

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Rebecca
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Gregor
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Barry
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Andrew
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ABSTRACT
Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them. [...]

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RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Ford, Parsons, Kua & Sadalage • Building Evolutionary Architectures 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3lqr5Q8
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb
Gregor Hohpe • The Software Architect Elevator • https://amzn.to/3F6d2ax
Barry O'Reilly • Residues • https://leanpub.com/residuality
Barry O'Reilly • The Architect's Paradox • https://leanpub.com/architectsparadox
Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture • https://amzn.eu/d/5kZKVfU

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Laurenţiu Spilcă - Java Champion, Java Community Lead at Endava & Author of "Software Security for Developers" & more books
Thomas Vitale - Senior Software Architect at Systematic & Author of "Cloud Native Spring in Action"

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Links
https://www.manning.com/books/software-security-for-developers
https://adibsaikali.wordpress.com

DESCRIPTION
Thomas Vitale sits down with Java Champion and author Laurentiu Spilca to discuss his co-authored book "Software Security for Developers". The conversation explores why security is so often avoided by developers, the widespread confusion between foundational concepts like encoding, hashing, and encryption, the dangers of reinventing established security standards, the growing risks of AI-generated code written without security awareness, and why understanding topics like PKI and certificates is more important than ever in modern software development.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Adib Saikali & Laurentiu Spilca • Software Security for Developers • https://amzn.to/4aPhqu0
Laurentiu Spilca • Spring, Start Here • https://amzn.to/3L6Sv6c
Laurentiu Spilca • Spring Security in Action • https://amzn.to/3LqEkZW
Laurentiu Spilca • Troubleshooting Java • https://amzn.to/4u5vkj0
Thomas Vitale • Cloud Native Spring in Action • https://amzn.to/3kLu1ns

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Elton Stoneman - Freelance Consultant, Trainer & Author of "Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches"
Bret Fisher - Docker Captain, Cloud Native Ambassador, Course Creator, YouTuber & Podcaster

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Links
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https://blog.sixeyed.com/why-would-you-write-a-book-about-docker-in-2025
https://12factor.net

DESCRIPTION
In this conversation, Docker educator Brett Fisher sits down with Elton Stoneman - freelance consultant, former Docker employee, and author of "Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches" — to discuss the newly released second edition of his book. They cover what has changed in the container ecosystem over the last five years, why Docker fundamentals still matter even as Kubernetes dominates production environments, and what separates a Docker beginner from a true expert.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Elton Stoneman • Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches • https://amzn.to/4kJVSSD
Elton Stoneman • Learn Kubernetes in a Month of Lunches • https://amzn.to/4qKjate
Elton Stoneman • Docker on Windows • https://amzn.to/4cD6kJD
Burns, Beda & Hightower • Kubernetes: Up & Running • https://amzn.to/3sueuuI
Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe
Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075

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William Rizzo - Global Field CTO at Mirantis & CNCF Ambassador
Colin Griffin - CEO at Krumware & Co-Chair of CNCF Platform Engineering Working Group

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William
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Links
https://www.cncf.io/reports/cloud-native-artificial-intelligence-whitepaper
https://cloudnativeplatforms.com/whitepapers/platform-eng-maturity-model

DESCRIPTION
Colin Griffin and William Rizzo explore the evolving state of platform engineering in 2026. They discuss how the discipline plays out very differently across verticals such as fintech, telco, and automotive, and why generic frameworks must be tailored to the unique regulatory, cultural, and technical realities of each industry.

The conversation moves through the growing pressure to align platform investments with measurable business outcomes, the distinct compliance challenges facing European organizations under tightening AI regulation, and the infrastructure reckoning triggered by large-scale GPU investment. Both speakers converge on a shared wish: that the CNCF Platform Engineering White Paper and Maturity Model be updated to reflect vertical-specific guidance, informed directly by end-user organizations.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb
Gregor Hohpe • Cloud Strategy • https://amzn.to/3TOS3Nv
Zhamak Dehghani • Data Mesh • https://amzn.to/3tTCwAC
Sandeep Uttamchandani • The Self-Service Data Roadmap • https://amzn.to/3wAw5W2

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Marko Klemetti - CTO of Eficode
Kris Jenkins - Lifelong Computer Geek and Podcast Host

ORIGINAL TALK TITLE
Rewriting the SDLC Playbook with GenAI: How To Build a GenAI-Augmented Software Organization?

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ABSTRACT
Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them.
Expect the unexpected. [...]

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RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ
Forsgren, Humble & Kim • Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps • https://amzn.to/3tCz1xO
John Arundel & Justin Domingus • Cloud Native DevOps with Kubernetes • https://amzn.to/3hKZvI5
Wynne, Hellesoy & Tooke • The Cucumber Book • https://amzn.to/3tEUINJ
Sol Rashidi • Your AI Survival Guide • https://amzn.to/3UFYnKC
David Foster • Generative Deep Learning • https://amzn.to/48ZgP4x
Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZ

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Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"

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Links
https://effectiveplatformengineering.com
https://epetech.io
https://dora.dev
https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report

DESCRIPTION
Ajay Chankramath (founder and CEO of Platformetrics) and Nic Cheneweth Cheneweth (Principal Technologist at ThoughtWorks) explore the evolving world of platform engineering. They discuss why a product mindset is critical for internal platforms, how control planes and API-first design create scalable foundations, the real challenges organizations face when implementing Backstage, and where AI and agents are beginning to change the platform landscape. Throughout, both speakers emphasize that cutting corners on architectural foundations ultimately compounds problems at scale.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb

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Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard & Author of 'Using Docker'
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

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Charles
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Links
https://images.chainguard.dev
https://www.cisa.gov/sbom
https://www.chainguard.dev/supply-chain-security-101/the-npm-registry-cant-protect-you-the-new-javascript-supply-chain-attacks
https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/discovering-the-xz-backdoor-with-andres-freund
https://edu.chainguard.dev

DESCRIPTION
In this State of the Art episode, Charles Humble speaks with Adrian Mouat, Developer Relations at Chainguard and author of "Using Docker", about the evolution of container security and the persistent challenge of outdated packages.

Adrian explains how traditional Linux distributions weren't designed for the immutable, frequently-replaced nature of containers, leading to security vulnerabilities that scanners detect but teams struggle to address. He discusses how Chainguard tackles this problem by building everything from source using Wolfi, creating minimal "distroless" images with near-zero CVEs, and how concepts like SBOMs, attestations, and defense in depth are reshaping security practices.

The conversation also covers major security incidents including the XZ Utils backdoor and Shai-hulud attacks, emphasizing the importance of building from source, using short-lived credentials, and replacing rather than updating containers – practices pioneered by companies like Google that are gradually spreading across the industry.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Adrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJL
Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe
Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075

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