Two of the most influential hitmakers of the last half-century sit down with Kyle Meredith for a wide-ranging conversation about what it means to write songs that outlive their moment. Desmond Child talks about finally stepping center stage with his first live release, Desmond Child Live, revisiting decades of world-dominating songs, and how writing his autobiography, Livin On A Prayer: Big Songs Big Life, pushed him to reflect on legacy, mentorship, and the emotional weight songs like “Livin’ on a Prayer” still carry. Alongside him, David Foster digs into his own retrospective project, breaking down the theatrical instincts behind his biggest productions, the famous studio moments with Whitney Houston and Celine Dion, and how he’s shifted his creative focus toward Broadway and long-form storytelling, including the Betty Boop musical. Together, the two songwriters reflect on adapting to changing eras, choosing when to step back from chasing radio, and why the stories behind the songs may ultimately matter as much as the hits themselves.

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Maynard James Keenan digs into the fifth Puscifer album Normal Isn't, unpacking how the record functions as a kind of cultural status report—part political frustration, part tech anxiety, part dark humor. Keenan explains why the band feels like it’s finally being “discovered” years after the fact, how this album leans harder and hits sharper than its predecessors, and why observation—not preaching—is the real job here. The conversation also gets into the creation of the new character Bellendia Black, the expanding world of videos and graphic novels, the uneasy usefulness of AI, and why being the underdog still matters. Along the way, there’s talk of Bowie, language as satire, and why Normal Isn’t feels less like rebellion for rebellion’s sake and more like an inevitable reckoning.

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Film producer Gill Holland joins Kyle Meredith to trace his nearly 30-year career that adds up to around 150 films, from early Sundance breakthroughs like Hurricane Streets to documentaries such as Flow: For Love Of Water and the beloved Big Star doc, plus cult favorites like Greg The Bunny. Holland digs into what a producer actually does, why rejection is basically part of the job description, how the ’90s indie boom cracked Hollywood open, and why that spirit might be poised for a comeback in the age of streaming and AI. Along the way, he explains why Louisville became home, how Kentucky keeps finding its way into his work, and what’s next, including new projects with Sarah Silverman and Bonnie “Prince” Billy.