Katie traveled to Washington, D.C. to sit down with Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson for a candid conversation about their book Original Sin—an investigation into how President Biden’s decline was hidden from voters, colleagues, and even some members of the press. As questions swirl in the wake of his cancer diagnosis, their reporting offers critical insight into just how long this story has been building. They discuss the blind spots that shaped media coverage, the role of Biden’s inner circle, and how silence and loyalty collided in the final year of his presidency.

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They weren’t political operatives—they were a civil rights lawyer, a digital editor, and a marketing guy. But in the chaos of the Trump era, the Meiselas Brothers felt compelled to act. In their first in-person interview all together, Katie gets the behind-the-scenes story of how a pandemic group chat turned into the ascendent progressive MeidasTouch Network, and why truth, clarity, and community—not partisanship—are at the heart of what they do.

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New York Times reporter Astead Herndon has spent years embedded in the world of Trump voters. He joins Katie to explain what he’s hearing now—why economic fear, media distrust, and cultural resentment still fuel Trumpism, how tariffs and Elon Musk are playing with the base, and why the Democrats’ message just isn’t landing. If you think you know what’s driving voters in 2024, think again

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