We’re back with another roundtable, and this week Ashley and I get to chat with two powerhouse guests. Alison Campbell is a former HR tech exec, and now is the founder of unBurnt, a company redefining how we prevent burnout. Dr. Sheryl Ziegler is a clinical psychologist and author of the books Mommy Burnout and The Crucial Years. These two women are on a mission to rewire how we think about stress, success, self-worth, and how we raise the next generation.

Our conversation dives deep into what burnout really feels like, why many of us miss the signs of it, the systems that perpetuate it, how to heal your nervous system, and what it takes to raise burnout-resistant kids. This is a must-listen for anyone tired of just pushing through.

Show links:

• Ashley: And/Both Podcast
• Alison Campbell: unBurnt
• Dr. Sheryl Ziegler: drsherylziegler.com
• • Read The Crucial Years: The Essential Guide to Mental Health and Modern Puberty in Middle Childhood (Ages 6-12)
  • Read Mommy Burnout: How to Reclaim Your Life and Raise Healthier Children in the Process

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Becky Schmooke is a mom, speaker, author, and leadership coach who blends mindfulness, stoic philosophy, and a whole lot of humor to help us lead others well by first leading ourselves. Her work empowers others to live with intentionality, rather than reactivity.

Today’s conversation dives into what real leadership looks like, how to turn obstacles into opportunities, and how to practice the kind of presence that creates change. Leadership isn’t about a title—it’s about the small choices we make every day to learn, grow, and help those around us.

Connect with Becky:

• beckyschmooke.com
• Read Choose the Handle That Holds: A Guide to Living, Leading and Owning the Moments That Matter

As always, I’d love to hear from you! Subscribe, leave a review, or follow PG-ish on IG @pgishparenting, or you can always find me at www.pgishparenting.com.

Kristin McGee is a nationally recognized yoga and pilates teacher, mindfulness leader and speaker, mompreneur, and author. After helping launch Peleton’s yoga and pilates platform, she now empowers people to find their inner light and outer strength through Kristin McGee Movement.

Kristin shares about her journey of raising three boys, navigating divorce, and learning how to care for her body and mind in new ways. Whether you’re redefining health, identity, or what it means to be strong, this conversation is for every woman in a season of change.

Sponsors and discounts:

• Primally Pure SPF

Connect with Kristen:

• kristinmcgee.com
• Read Somatic Exercises For Dummies

As always, I’d love to hear from you! Subscribe, leave a review, or follow PG-ish on IG @pgishparenting, or you can always find me at www.pgishparenting.com.