"When I play music, I see images. When I make images, I often hear music."

"Wonder is not a property of childhood but a function of attention.”

-- Gavin Libotte

In this episode, Antonio and Ward mark their 250th show by talking with Australian photographer Gavin Libotte, whose path back into photography took a long detour through graphic design, music, teaching, and family life before street photography pulled him in for good. Gavin talks about losing his camera gear when he was young, rediscovering image-making through the iPhone and Hipstamatic, and then finding a deeper creative groove through daily shooting, books, zines, and long-term projects. What comes through most is how photography, for him, is tied to rhythm, intuition, and being fully present in the moment, with music and visual composition feeding each other in a very personal way.

The conversation also gets into the way Gavin works: his graphic sense of color and design, his experiments with off-camera flash, his water photography, and the making of his book Symphony Number Five. Along the way, Antonio and Ward respond to the emotional pull of Gavin’s pictures, especially one Sydney Opera House image that sends the discussion into ideas about wonder, timing, and why certain photographs hit so deeply. It ends up being one of those episodes that is partly about technique, partly about books and process, and partly about what photography can do for a person when it becomes a way of staying awake to the world.

Gavin Libotte - Website, Instagram. Purchase his book "Symphony No 5" here.

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"The more pictures you see, the better you are as a photographer”. - Robert Mapplethorpe

"It’s a weird combination that makes a great picture. It’s a complete mystery to me." - Alec Soth

In this episode, Antonio and Ward talk about recent exhibitions, photobooks, and the ongoing evolution of their work. Ward shares his experience seeing large Fred Herzog prints in person and describes the impact of standing in front of that rich, immersive color. The conversation also turns to Tetsuo Suzuki’s latest book and the emotional intensity that can come from sequencing images into a cohesive, almost psychological body of work.

Antonio reflects on presenting “The Fourth Epoch” to the Park West Camera Club, discussing what it means to publicly trace the arc of his creative life and speak openly about transition and change. Along the way, they briefly touch on the visual possibilities of photographing hockey, but the heart of the episode centers on seeing, sequencing, and how photographers make sense of where they’ve been—and where they’re headed.

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“Your photography is a record of your living, for anyone who really sees.” – Paul Strand

"We are judged, not by the photographs we take, but by the photographs we show." – Ted Grant

In this episode, Antonio and Ward move from recent shoots into a thoughtful conversation about what photographers are really responding to when they raise the camera. Antonio shares his growing excitement around astrophotography, from capturing Jupiter’s moons to photographing the Orion Nebula for the first time, and how even familiar subjects feel personal when you experience them firsthand. He also talks about a recent portrait session that reminded him how much intuition, pacing, and human connection still matter in photography, no matter how advanced the tools become.

The heart of the episode revolves around a simple but powerful idea: photographers often end up photographing their own temperament. Ward reflects on how darker, moodier work in Japan drew him in based on what he was feeling and noticing in the streets, while Antonio connects his quieter Brooklyn images to the grief and inward focus he was living through at the time. Together, they explore how environment, emotion, curiosity, anxiety, and even life transitions subtly shape what each photographer sees and chooses to frame. Rather than chasing trends or external goals, the conversation lands on the idea that our photographs often mirror where we are mentally and emotionally — whether we realize it or not.

Addendum: Yes, Antonio is fully aware that there are words ending in double “ff.” His brief confusion is being attributed to something like lack of sleep, brain fog, or possibly too much Banff-adjacent riff-raff talk. It happens. Forgive and move on.

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