Hall & Oates are the biggest selling American duo in music history. Let that just marinate for a second. The iconic pair made waves through the 70s and 80s with songs like ‘She’s Gone,’ ‘Rich Girl,’ ‘Private Eyes,’ ‘Maneater,’ and ‘I Can’t Go For That (No Can Do),’ to name a scant few, and while they continued to release albums well into their fourth decade, by 2023 they were locked in an acrimonious lawsuit with regards to Oates wanting to sell his stake in their business partnership. As of August 2025 the charttopping duo have resolved the issue, but this is of course a topic we touched upon when the legendary guitarist and songwriter stopped by the studio for the first time.

Where his last solo album was an exploration of his folk/blues/Americana roots, for his newly released seventh record, Oates, he pulls from his more groove-based back catalog, teaming up with and being inspired by young artists like Lawrence and Devon Gilfillian. As well as discussing all this, he also shares once in a lifetime encounters with Madonna, Andy Warhol, and Michael Jackson, the power music and visuals (in particular pertaining to 500 Days of Summer), his time as an Anteater on The Masked Singer (no, really), the stories behind songs like ‘Rich Girl,’ and their second LP Abandoned Luncheonette, plus so much more.

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John Fogerty will go down as an artist who’s written some of the most enduring songs in modern music: ‘Proud Mary,’ ‘Fortunate Son,’ ‘Have You Ever Seen The Rain?,’ ‘Centerfield,’ the list goes on and on. Equally, as the leader of Creedence Clearwater Revival, he’s part of a quartet who will go down in history as having signed one of the most exploitative record contracts ever inked (Fantasy Records, headed up by record exec Saul Zaentz.

Much of Fogerty’s life, while ablaze with creativity and music, has also been colored by the fact that his catalog was no longer his. Legal wranglings, depressions, bitterness, and many years feeling divorced from the lionshare of his own music ensued. Now at the age of 80, he is for the most part, back in control of his creations (thanks in large part to his wife Julie). This year he headed back into the studio to lay down Legacy: The Creedence Clearwater Revival Years, rerecordings of his greatest Creedence hits produced and performed with the help of his two youngest sons, Tyler and Shane.

We discuss all this: the circumstances that led up to the life-altering (in many ways) record deal, the complicated band dynamics that fractured the CCR, and the stories behind some of his aforementioned biggest hits and the cultural and personal shifts that inspired them. Plus he opens up about his wife of 30-years and the impact her manifestation and chutzpah has had on his life and career, his firsthand experiences getting drafted for Vietnam and San Francisco’s legendary Summer of Love in 1967, his collab with Eric Church for NASCAR 2025, and so much more.

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Don’t worry — no spoilers here — but the final season of Amazon Prime’s Upload is upon us. The surreally, funny, tech-prophetic series left us all on a cliffhanger at the close of season 3 with Robbie’s character cloned and one of them bites the dust: BUT WHICH ONE!? And who is Robbie Amell? The Canadian actor is commercially successful, prolific, and widely swooned over. He’s been part of big shows that are a part of fabric of people’s childhoods, True Jackson, VP, Scooby Doo, Life with Derek, but he’s also highly motivated and indie-minded: the runaway success of the crowd-funded film Code 8 — which he made with his pals and cousin Stephen Amell — alongside its Netflix-funded sequel is proof enough. Inspiring stuff. Next up, his film Racewalkers.

We talk about all this, but also meeting his wife and best pals on the set of American Pie: Beta House, The Duff, and of course we go deep on Upload, the project he’s had the longest history with. What it was like working with the screenwriting legend that is Greg Daniels (SNL alum, The Office, co-creator of Parks and Rec, and King of the Hill), plus talk character arcs, special effects, AI, and so much more.

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