Pat Mair works with survivors of abuse, including with victims of Celtic Boys Club. Through her charity, Talk Now, she's counselled many victims of the club, and also survivors of abuse in other settings.

We sat down with Pat to talk about the work she does and what she makes of the case against Celtic Boys Club.

In this episode you'll hear:

• How Pat thinks the inaction of Celtic FC is traumatising the survivors, almost like they're being abused again
• How she views the scale of the abuse at Celtic Boys Club compared to other settings she's worked in
• The impact of a abuse on the children and their families
• What that means long term for the survivors as they grow up
• And the particularly cruel aspects of this kind of abuse in a football setting

You can find out more about the work which Pat does by visiting the Talk Now website: https://talknow.org.uk/

Again, thank you to all the brave individuals who have come forward to share their story.

This podcast is free, but you can become a Patreon to help support the small team who work hard to tell this story. You can sign up here: https://patreon.com/TheCaseAgainstCelticBoysClub

Warning: the episode discusses issues which some people may find distressing.

If you or a member of your family has been affected by the issues in this podcast, you can find help and support here: https://www.mygov.scot/childhood-abuse

Support the podcast by hitting the subscribe button on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. And share with someone who you think might want to listen.

Host: Peter Henderson

I am Peter Henderson, a former producer at the BBC and a press and media communications consultant. This podcast is the product of my personal research and is not attributable to any organisation I have or continue to work with with in my capacity as a communications consultant.

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Bouns episode

Peter sits down with two of the survivors of abuse at Edinburgh schools to talk about their experiences and the parallels between their cases and Celtic Boys Club.

Neil and Giles are both survivors of abuse at Edinburgh Academy - they are part of the group EA Survivors and have attending the Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry.

• What it means to take on powerful institutions and hold them to account
• Their experience of the Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry, and whether cases like Celtic Boys Club should be included
• Their message of solitary to the survivors of Celtic Boys Club

Again, thank you to all the brave individuals who have come forward to share their story.

This podcast is free, but you can become a Patreon to help support the small team who work hard to tell this story. You can sign up here: https://patreon.com/TheCaseAgainstCelticBoysClub

Warning: the episode discusses issues which some people may find distressing.

If you or a member of your family has been affected by the issues in this podcast, you can find help and support here: https://www.mygov.scot/childhood-abuse

Support the podcast by hitting the subscribe button on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. And share with someone who you think might want to listen.

Host: Peter Henderson

I am Peter Henderson, a former producer at the BBC and a press and media communications consultant. This podcast is the product of my personal research and is not attributable to any organisation I have or continue to work with with in my capacity as a communications consultant.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Part 2 of Tom's story.

Tom has never spoken publicly about what happened to him before.

In this episode you'll hear about the impact his abuse at the hands of Kenneth Divers had on Tom's life, but also the emotional story of how he finally saw justice done.

Divers was convicted of abuse and sentenced to five years in prison for his crimes in June 2023.

Tom is a survivor of that abuse, it's not his real name.

In this episode Tom tells us:

• How he struggled to cope with his abuser's continued presence in his life
• How Tom finally managed to acknowledge what happened to him
• The connections between Divers and other abusers we've heard about on the podcast who formed part of the Celtic Boys Club network
• How friends helped him get the treatment he needed to deal with the impact of what he lived through
• How a chance encounter in an airport departure lounge finally led to a police hunt for his abuser
• The work of Police Scotland to finally bring Divers back to face justice from abroad
• What Tom thinks about the current position of Celtic regarding their role in the Celtic Boys Club scandal

Again, thank you to all the brave individuals who have come forward to share their story.

This podcast is free, but you can become a Patreon to help support the small team who work hard to tell this story. You can sign up here: https://patreon.com/TheCaseAgainstCelticBoysClub

Warning: the episode discusses issues which some people may find distressing.

If you or a member of your family has been affected by the issues in this podcast, you can find help and support here: https://www.mygov.scot/childhood-abuse

Support the podcast by hitting the subscribe button on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. And share with someone who you think might want to listen.

Host: Peter Henderson

I am Peter Henderson, a former producer at the BBC and a press and media communications consultant. This podcast is the product of my personal research and is not attributable to any organisation I have or continue to work with with in my capacity as a communications consultant.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.